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Title: 190 bucks
Post by: coachcw on March 21, 2011, 12:41:49 PM
Ok how many 190 inch plus bucks are in wa ? I'd say less than 100 whats your guess ?
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: wastickslinger on March 21, 2011, 12:48:48 PM
gross score?

id say 70. I just pulled that out of a hat.  :grin:  How will we dispute this one.  :cool:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 21, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
Id say 60 or so.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 21, 2011, 01:09:03 PM
Ok how many 190 inch plus bucks are in wa ?

Depends on who is doing the scoring. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 21, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Yeah, sometimes those rackulators get away from people.   :shocked:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Hunterone on March 21, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I don't think we will ever know, but I'd like to think there are some where I'm hunting. :grin:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: wastickslinger on March 21, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
Ok how many 190 inch plus bucks are in wa ?

Depends on who is doing the scoring. :rolleyes:

HMMM wonder who that shot was at.  :kiss:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: coachcw on March 21, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
you know if they fall into cold water there's ground shrinkage !
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 01:47:26 PM
Id say 60 or so.

The Colville Reservation easily has that many. :wink:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 21, 2011, 02:14:20 PM
That is the only reason my number is so high.....
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 02:38:30 PM
Gotcha.  I was thinking you were banking on at least half of them in Whitman County. :cheesy:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 21, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
I've never seen a mule deer approach 190 in whitman county, if I live in the okanogan I'd have dozens of 'em  :grin:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 21, 2011, 02:56:43 PM
You really think there is 60?
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 02:57:29 PM
Absolutey including the rez.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 21, 2011, 03:01:01 PM
You bet.  I think that the biggest mule deer in the state are in the northeast
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on March 21, 2011, 03:07:33 PM
Ok how many 190 inch plus bucks are in wa ?

Depends on who is doing the scoring. :rolleyes:
:yeahthat:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 21, 2011, 04:28:16 PM
So, WAmuley, do you think there are 60 190"s in our state?
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 21, 2011, 04:30:11 PM
So, WAmuley, do you think there are 60 190"s in our state?

I know there is one on his wall. :laugh:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: DyinQuivers on March 21, 2011, 04:37:40 PM
You know I bet there is more than 60...  I'd say 20 in each of the wilderness areas, 15 or so in the desert, around 5 in the blues, and a few scattered throughout the rest of the state.... obviously just speculation though!
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: weimaranercrazy on March 21, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
I'd like to say there are alot... we just never find them or they are the one that got away sometimes...
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: cleelumbuckhntr on March 21, 2011, 05:43:35 PM
Ok how many 190 inch plus bucks are in wa ?

Depends on who is doing the scoring. :rolleyes:
:yeahthat:
 :grin: :grin:. 
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: weimaranercrazy on March 21, 2011, 05:44:56 PM
 :yeahthat:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: wastickslinger on March 21, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
You know I bet there is more than 60...  I'd say 20 in each of the wilderness areas, 15 or so in the desert, around 5 in the blues, and a few scattered throughout the rest of the state.... obviously just speculation though!

Maybe 5 in the Desert.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Michael on March 21, 2011, 06:14:06 PM
I would guess less than 50 statewide.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: DyinQuivers on March 21, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
You know I bet there is more than 60...  I'd say 20 in each of the wilderness areas, 15 or so in the desert, around 5 in the blues, and a few scattered throughout the rest of the state.... obviously just speculation though!

Maybe 5 in the Desert.

Really? I would've guess more... key word is guessed lol
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: HoundHunter on March 21, 2011, 06:30:56 PM
i know theres a 190 blacktail running around my honey hole :51:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on March 21, 2011, 06:46:27 PM
So, WAmuley, do you think there are 60 190"s in our state?

I know there is one on his wall. :laugh:
:grin:

Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: beardung on March 21, 2011, 06:52:34 PM
If we're talking overall gross score then I would say more than 50 but less than a 100, hows that for room to wagel.  It doesn't take much for what we think is a 190 inch buck to really score 185. :twocents:  
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Lowedog on March 21, 2011, 07:15:40 PM
Very very few true 190 class bucks in this state.  I would say less than 50 state wide.  How many mule deer bucks do we have in this state?  Think about that and then think that a true 190 buck is what, one in several hundred?  Maybe one in a thousand? 
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: M_ray on March 21, 2011, 07:17:59 PM
You know I bet there is more than 60...  I'd say 20 in each of the wilderness areas, 15 or so in the desert, around 5 in the blues, and a few scattered throughout the rest of the state.... obviously just speculation though!

I'm not convinced there is 1 in the desert and I'm with michael my guess would be closer to fewer than 40 statewide   ... Most people way over judge what they see! Everyone wants to say they saw a 190 class buck in their honey hole because it justifies why they are hunting there, but the reality is there are very few in WA and most that say there are are mis-judging them ... Just my opinion.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: WABONEHNTR on March 21, 2011, 08:41:57 PM
I would say there are including the reservations and hanford there are over 100 easy. 
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: doublelung on March 21, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
I can't speak to reservations.  I would say in areas open to public hunters (public or private lands), there are 10 preseason and 5 postseason in Chelan Co.  In the rest of the sate, I will say 10 and 5 also.  So, going into the season I say there are 20, and 10 that survive the season to hit winter range.  Of those, I suspect no more than 5 survive to the following season.

In 15 seasons as a game bio in WY and WA, I saw less than 20 hunter harvested bucks that netted 190.  On the hoof, I would say I've seen 20 also.  I figure that is roughly 20 out of 70,000 bucks.  I think 1:3500 is reasonable.

If you pass 100 bucks a year, in season, I figure it will take you a lifetime of hunting to kill an all-time record book typical mule deer.  I've muffed my chance on only one that I knew was a for sure B&C buck.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: WABONEHNTR on March 21, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
Ok subtract the unhuntable areas.  I will agree with Micheal 40.  Chelan Co is over hunted in my opinion and holds only a tiny fraction of the 190 bucks in this state. 
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: elkaholic123 on March 21, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
I am pretty sure I have seen 2 in 35 yrs of hunting and missed 1 of them  :bash:
They are few and far between  :twocents:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Hunterone on March 21, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
I don't think we will ever know.


I do however think that just because you don't see them, that doesn't mean they are not there.  There are still places in this state that hold big bucks and places where a man rarely travels through.  I have no doubt that there is a monster or two in the location that I hunt, but it's finding him in that short period of time that causes problems.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: coachcw on March 22, 2011, 06:49:41 AM
I think that the ne corner could easly hold twenty it's so rough and much is un hunted , give desert one se five , north central five and cental including chelan county ten , throw one or two in the three hundred units . my number wold be 45-50 not counting reserve's or reservations . I've been lucky enough to see two in wa and one in Idaho in my life time .
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 22, 2011, 08:04:38 AM
I put my hands every year on several over 190" gross off the reservation, and I know a good portion on them don't hunt a fraction of the land they can.  Not including the rez, I'd say 20 statewide at the high end. :twocents:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Hunterone on March 22, 2011, 08:16:39 AM
Which reservation are you talking about?
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 22, 2011, 12:20:33 PM
Colville
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 22, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
On huntable land to teh public I'd say less than 30.  Maybe another 15-20 if you count the reservation based on all the stories I hear about that place.

I just can't see this state holding 60, 70 or more 190 bucks.  
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: jjhunter on March 22, 2011, 12:42:41 PM
I put my hands every year on several over 190.....off the reservation, 

Whoa MtnMuley, we are talking about mule deer here    :laugh:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 22, 2011, 12:44:27 PM
LMAO :laugh:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on March 22, 2011, 03:29:55 PM
I put my hands every year on several over 190.....off the reservation, 

Whoa MtnMuley, we are talking about mule deer here    :laugh:

Doing a little TeePee creepin eh?  :clap:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 22, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
I guess I would throw a question to all the shed hunters.  What percentage of single sheds score greater than 83.  Multiply by 2 with a 24" spread credit and no deductions, that's what it would take for a 190 net.  I'm guessing the percentage that are found is extremely small.  My guess would be definitely less than a 100 in the state, probably much less, maybe 40-50.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 22, 2011, 04:26:51 PM
I put my hands every year on several over 190.....off the reservation, 

Whoa MtnMuley, we are talking about mule deer here    :laugh:

You didn't quote me right buddy.  I had an   "  in there!
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: M_ray on March 22, 2011, 04:28:07 PM
I thought we were talking about deer???  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Lowedog on March 22, 2011, 04:29:03 PM
I guess I would throw a question to all the shed hunters.  What percentage of single sheds score greater than 83.  Multiply by 2 with a 24" spread credit and no deductions, that's what it would take for a 190 net.  I'm guessing the percentage that are found is extremely small.  My guess would be definitely less than a 100 in the state, probably much less, maybe 40-50.

In close to 15 years of serious shed hunting prime mule deer winter range I have one set that would go 190" and only a couple singles that are 80 + inches.  
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: csoutfitters on March 24, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
I know for certain that there are 36 B&C bucks on public land.  29 of them are in the Ringold unit. :tongue:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: crazyelk on March 27, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
I know there is one on my wall :cheesy:
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Elkstuffer on March 27, 2011, 05:47:06 PM
Over the last 12 years I have averaged taking in close to 50 muledeer bucks a year and only 2 of them have ever grossed 190+ inches and came from WA. I've taken a few in from WY, CO and MT. I would be interested to see how many Charlie or any other taxidermists have seen come thru there shops.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: DyinQuivers on March 28, 2011, 12:06:09 AM
I thought it would've been more considering two bucks wintered right across the canyon from eachother. One grossed 192" and the other 203"...  I got the sheds off of one and WAMULEYHUNTER was on the hunt that got the 200"er.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: wastickslinger on March 28, 2011, 06:40:15 AM
I thought it would've been more considering two bucks wintered right across the canyon from eachother. One grossed 192" and the other 203"...  I got the sheds off of one and WAMULEYHUNTER was on the hunt that got the 200"er.

Have you posted the sheds before? If so I must have missed it. Can we See them? I love big sheds.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 28, 2011, 08:10:51 AM
How'd you miss those?  I've seen them posted on several sites a dozen times, including one pretty recently.  I can't find the latest link.
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: Michael on March 28, 2011, 08:16:27 AM
here ya go  http://www.huntfishnw.com/index.php?topic=3280.210 (http://www.huntfishnw.com/index.php?topic=3280.210)
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: duckfvr on March 28, 2011, 09:04:54 AM
Here is the total for that day. I think I found 1 side, boy was he excited to match em up. ::):
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: MtnMuley on March 28, 2011, 02:49:43 PM
I watched that big 3 with the back kicker for a couple years.  Well over a 30"er.  Also, didn't an orchardist or worker give you most of those horns that day?
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: huntnphool on March 28, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
Nice Fever
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: DyinQuivers on March 28, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
Yeah we had a few that we were able to pick up out of the pruners pile for the orchard. Still a helluva day though... 

Mike
Title: Re: 190 bucks
Post by: wastickslinger on March 28, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Oh ya I remember them now.
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