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Wolves / Repeat of wolf kill unlikely
« on: November 14, 2012, 10:10:59 AM »
Killing seven members of a wolf pack that repeatedly attacked a Northeast Washington rancher’s cattle cost about $76,500, according to preliminary state figures.

The amount includes all hunts targeting the Wedge Pack, which is believed responsible for killing or injuring 16 calves last summer belonging to the Diamond M Ranch in Stevens County.

During a four-day period in September, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife spent $22,000 to kill six wolves in the pack using a helicopter and a marksman. The aerial hunt was more efficient than an earlier ground-based effort, which consumed 39 days, cost $54,500, and resulted in only one wolf being caught and killed, state officials said.

The cost estimates were in a department letter sent to state Sen. Kevin Ranker, chairman of the legislative committee overseeing the Department of Fish and Wildlife. Ranker, an Orcas Island Democrat, has criticized the department’s decision to remove the entire pack. He’s planning a hearing during the legislative session that starts in January to review the decision.

Future department actions to remove an entire pack are likely to be extremely rare if they occur at all, said Madonna Luers, a Fish and Wildlife department spokeswoman in Spokane.

“Our director (Phil Anderson) has said that he never wants to do this again,” Luers said. “… The social acceptance is just not there.”

Wildlife officials said wolves in the Wedge Pack had become habituated to preying on cattle, but the decision to kill all pack members remains controversial. People protesting the department’s actions showed up at last month’s Fish and Wildlife Commission meeting in Olympia, which had to be moved to a larger hearing room.

Anderson and three other department staff were recently in Montana’s Blackfoot Valley, where ranchers, government agencies and nonprofits are working to reduce wolf/livestock conflicts.

When a wolf pack starts to prey on livestock in the Blackfoot Valley, government officials there move swiftly to locate the pack and shoot a couple of wolves from the air as they’re feeding on the carcasses. The goal is to send a message to the remaining wolves that livestock aren’t viable prey.

Washington officials will try out the method during future livestock depredations, Luers said. “You hit (the wolves) hard and early,” she said. “They’re smart animals and they’re pack animals” that adapt to what’s happening in their environment.

Wildlife officials are also stepping up use of nonlethal methods for keeping wolves away from livestock. The department and Conservation Northwest, an environmental group, already share the cost of a range rider in Northeast Washington to protect livestock from predation by the Smackout Pack, Luers said.

As part of its legislative proposals, the department has suggested hiring a wildlife conflict specialist to work with Northeast Washington ranchers. The specialist could work on projects with bears and cougars as well as wolves, Luers said.

After the killing of the Wedge Pack, a dozen wolf packs remain in Washington. Wolves are re-establishing themselves in the state nearly a century after they were exterminated through hunting, trapping and poisoning. The new wolves are migrants from Canada and from other states.

When the state was developing a wolf management plan, officials estimated that Washington would spend about $400,000 on wolves annually. The state has spent about $376,000 on wolf activities this year, including culling of the Wedge Pack.

Money for wolf management in Washington comes from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and state funds through the sale of specialty license plates.

anyone shocked ??   :bash:

Trail Cameras / 4 cougars on a trail cam
« on: October 23, 2012, 10:06:12 PM »

General Discussion / Calif. sporting groups leery of dept. name change
« on: October 03, 2012, 12:57:44 PM »
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — After six decades as the California Department of Fish and Game, the agency in charge of the state's wild animals has a new name — one that has many hunting and fishing organizations leery.

Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation recently replacing "Game" with "Wildlife," in a nod to environmentalists and animal-rights activists. Sporting groups fear the legislation signals a change in the department's traditional focus.

"Generally, that means a shift toward butterflies, endangered species and other stuff like that," said Mike Faw, spokesman for the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance, an Ohio-based advocacy group that has seen similar efforts in other states.

Once the name change takes effect Jan. 1, only 12 other states will use the word "game" in the names of their wildlife agencies.

complete story:

seems to me it is just a formality, it's been the wildlife dept. for some time?


Firefighter killed in north-central Idaho


Associated Press

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A 20-year-old U.S. Forest Service firefighter died after she was struck by a falling tree in north-central Idaho, highlighting the dangerous job crews face as at least a dozen blazes continue to burn across the state.

And in central Idaho, a remote community near the Salmon River has been evacuated, though some of its residents are refusing to leave their homes.

Anne Veseth, from Moscow, died Sunday while helping extinguish the 43-acre Steep Corner fire near Orofino. She was killed when a tree fell and crashed into another tree, causing it to topple, too.

"The Forest Service is devastated by the loss of one of our own," said Forest Supervisor Rick Brazell, adding that his agency is investigating the fatal incident. "We ask the public to join us in keeping the family in their thoughts and prayers."

This was Veseth's second season as a firefighter. Her older brother is also a wildland firefighter in Idaho.

Veseth was a graduate of Moscow High School and a student at Lewis-Clark State College in Lewiston, where she studied auto mechanics.

Two years ago, she was featured in a Lewiston Tribune story when she graduated from high school. In the article, Veseth spoke of her father's death in 2003 following an accident, describing how that family tragedy changed her life.

"It made me appreciate who I have in my life, while I have them," Veseth told the newspaper in June 2010. "It made me realize life is short."

Her family asked for privacy. A memorial service is set for Saturday at St. Mary's Catholic Church, in Moscow.

Guns, Ammo and Reloading / new PMR-30
« on: July 16, 2012, 06:20:17 PM »
My daughter is recently engaged to be married (good guy) any way she wanted to get him a pistol as a groom gift so I suggested the PMR-30 .22 mag

So, as any good future father-in-law would do I went out and shot it ,make sure it was safe and functioned well. :cheesy:

My first impression when handling it was crap they sent me a toy airsoft gun by mistake, it is light. The gun shoots well and is a blast to shoot, louder than I expected.

I had 2 fail to feed events in a hundred rounds, slide locked back when there were still rounds in the mag, may not of been well seated?

Wolves / New breeding pair in Eastern Oregon
« on: June 30, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »

Why don't we just hire ODFW to locate wolves in the Blues?  Washington can save time, money and get results,,, seems like a win-win to me :bash:

Wolves / ODFW biologists radio-collar OR-13
« on: June 12, 2012, 08:12:17 PM »

June 11, 2012

On June 10, 2012, ODFW trapped OR-13, a two-year-old wolf of the Wenaha pack, and fitted it with a GPS radio-collar. The black female weighed 85 pounds and was captured in the Wenaha Wildlife Management Unit. She was previously caught as a pup in August 2010, but at the time was too small for a radio-collar.

Earlier in June, biologists observed at least four pups in the Wenaha pack.  Reproduction was also confirmed in the Imnaha pack this month, with a minimum of four pups observed.

For information on wolves in Oregon, visit ODFW’s website,

ODFW can find wolves in the Blues but WDFW can't ?? :angry:

Elk Hunting, / West side guide help
« on: June 11, 2012, 12:39:01 PM »
Here is the situation, I have been hunting East side for 25 years, mostly MF deer/ elk bear, the last 3 years spent bow hunting deer. I got drawn for a multi-season tag for elk but did not draw any special permits.

I would like to archery hunt general season west side units any elk or 3 pt min to get a chance at a mature bull.

I am looking for a reputable guide service that could help me tag something other than a spike or cow, gotten a number of them already.    thanks

Elk Hunting, / U of I Social Science / IDFG elk hunting survey
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:27:23 AM »
ran across this and thought I would pass it along.

Trail Cameras / Duck nest cam (update ducklings hatched)
« on: May 10, 2012, 10:59:49 AM »
My son found a duck nest next to our irrigation pond so I set up a trail cam.  I will up date it as I get good pics , should be fun!

BAD kitty, I explained to my neighbor the trail cam/duck nest and she said she would keep it in at night.  If I see it again I will live trap it :angry:

the cat was back but I think mom got the ducklings into the pond.

Wolves / More Oregon wolf news
« on: May 03, 2012, 03:59:45 PM »

Capital Press

Oregon wildlife investigators have determined that a wolf has killed four penned sheep on private land in northern Umatilla County.

One additional lamb is missing and believed to have been killed by the wolf.

The attack occurred late May 1 or early the following morning in an area believed to be inhabited by two wolves that aren't part of Oregon's four known wolf packs.

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife investigators believe a single wolf is responsible for the attack.

The killing marks the first time ODFW has confirmed that a wolf killed livestock in Umatilla County.

The landowner is eligible to seek compensation for losses from the state's wolf compensation fund, according to the department.

Wildlife officials said they are working to capture and radio-collar the wolf and have helped the landowner install an electrified fladry around his sheep. Fladry is a type of fencing that can deter wolves.

The five dead sheep bring to 57 the total number of livestock killed by wolves in Oregon since 2009. It is the first confirmed wolf kill of livestock in Oregon since March 8.

Umatilla County was awarded $15,495 earlier this year in wolf compensation grants for nonlethal wolf-depredation prevention efforts. Only Wallowa County, which received $38,700, received more.

Wallowa County has been the site of numerous wolf depredations since 2009.

Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:50 PM

Biologists: Dead animal a wolf killed illegally

PENDLETON, Ore. (AP) -- Authorities say they believe a carcass found in northeastern Oregon was a wild wolf killed illegally, but they are not yet saying just how it was killed.

The Oregon State Police say the 97-pound animal was found in mid-March on private land near Cove, east of La Grande on the flanks of the Wallowa Mountains, by a couple out walking. It had been dead a week, the East Oregonian ( reported.

The Idaho Department of Fish and Wildlife forensics laboratory in Caldwell, Idaho, performed tests, determining the cause of death was a criminal act, state police said. But investigators did not divulge the results.

Meanwhile, the carcass was sent to the University of Idaho for genetic testing, to determine whether it was a purebred wolf, a pet, or a wolf-dog cross, said Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman Michelle Dennehy. The results will also tell them whether the animal was from one of Oregon's established wolf packs, or somewhere else.

Wolves started moving into Oregon from Idaho in the late 1990s after packs were introduced into the Northern Rockies as part of a federal restoration program.

One pack in Wallowa County has occasionally preyed on livestock, angering some ranchers.

The Oregon Court of Appeals last year blocked the state from carrying out a kill order on two wolves from the Imnaha pack, ruling that conservation groups had a good chance of succeeding with a legal claim that state protections for endangered species overruled a management plan that allows wolves to be killed to reduce livestock attacks.

Oregon has an estimated two dozen wolves, in four packs. Most are in northeastern Oregon, although one, OR-7, has gotten widespread attention for his travels to southwest Oregon and California.

The state police say the state Endangered Species Act protects wolves in all parts of Oregon: They can't be killed except in the defense of human life or with a special permit. They are protected by federal law in western Oregon.

Under state law, killing a wolf is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine of up to $6,250, the police said.

Besides those killed by government agents to keep them from preying on livestock, several have been found dead since the packs began establishing themselves. Nobody has been prosecuted.

Wolves / State helps protect livestock from wolves
« on: April 26, 2012, 12:22:29 PM »
Capital Press

With the number of wolves increasing in Washington, the state Department of Fish and Wildlife is stepping up efforts to help ranchers protect livestock.

Conservation Northwest of Bellingham also is working to help ranchers and wants to start a program to do so.

Within the past month, Fish and Wildlife helped a producer near Laurier, in the northeast corner of the state, install turbo fladry, electrified flagging and fencing, around a 3-acre calving pen, said Madonna Luers, department spokeswoman in Spokane.

Big red flags were used that have been effective in keeping wolves out of areas in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, Luers said. The rancher had an electrified fence around a 1-acre pen and expanded it to 3 acres. The department paid for the flagging and some of the electrification with funds from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, she said.

The department will do more as needs arise, particularly in the northeast corner of the state where there are lots of ranches and wolves, Luers said. The department has added four to five personnel dedicated to wolf monitoring, she said.

Steve Pozzanghera, the department's eastern regional director, discussed agency efforts with ranchers in Colville on April 25, she said.

Meanwhile, Conservation Northwest held a workshop the same day in Colville for ranchers to listen to a rancher from Blackfoot, Mont., and a program coordinator from Longview, Alberta, about successful management of wolves in those areas.

"One of our goals is to develop a program but we are far from it," said Jasmine Minbashian, special projects director for Conservation Northwest.

Large cooperatives of ranchers and other parties were formed in Blackfoot and Longview and have used range riders, electric fences and removed carcasses which reduced livestock deaths by 90 percent, Minbashian said.

Conservation Northwest would like develop a similar program in Washington at little or no cost to ranchers, perhaps paid by government grants, she said.

The workshop was a starting point to see if ranchers are interested and let them hear strategies from ranchers dealing with wolves, she said.

"Conflict is inevitable with more wolves but if we can get ahead of it we can reduce it," she said. "Wolves are social and human presence with livestock is one way to get them to learn livestock is not desirable prey."

Flagging, electric fencing and cracker shells (shooting blanks) have been tried in other states with varying degrees of success, said Jack Field, executive vice president of the Washington Cattlemen's Association in Ellensburg.

"The only effective tool is removal (shooting), but the department wants to exhaust all preventative tools before it gets to that and I understand that," Field said.

Ranchers are concerned about potential losses this summer, particularly as they move livestock to higher-elevation ranges, he said.

Fish and Wildlife estimates 10 wolf packs may be living in the state, up from five last year. It has documented three breeding pair and 27 wolves although each breeding pair is believed to have about 14 wolves.

There has only been one confirmed probable livestock loss to a wolf in the state, a calf near Laurier in 2007. Ranchers say there have been others, cattle and sheep, that are unconfirmed.

well I feel better, they are on top of the situation :rolleyes:

General Discussion / Grizz killing steers in MT
« on: April 18, 2012, 11:08:13 AM »
GREAT FALLS, Mont. (AP) -- Wildlife officials with the Blackfeet Tribe were working Wednesday to capture any grizzly bears responsible for killing six yearling steers on a ranch about 40 miles north of Browning.

Ranch manager Beau Michael told the Great Falls Tribune ( ) that a bear charged him Tuesday when he found it feeding on a carcass.

"It kind of took a run at us," said Michael, who retreated on horseback.

The first yearling was found dead last Thursday with its nose and back crushed. Other dead steers were found Monday and Tuesday, but the carcasses weren't immediately fed on.

"It's not normal to have a bear kill 'em and just leave 'em lay," said tribal wildlife biologist Dan Carney.

Carney suspects one bear is responsible for the steer deaths on Rumney Ranch. He set six snares and two culvert traps to catch any offending bears, which likely would be relocated.

Michael said five grizzlies were spotted on the ranch at different times Tuesday.

The ranch is running about 1,000 head of yearlings on the Milk River about 25 miles east of Glacier National Park, Michael said.

Despite the livestock losses, Michael said he doesn't begrudge a bear a meal.

"It's hard for me to be hatin' on the bears for killing our livestock," he said. "They are a protected animal and they need to survive, too."

retreating from a charging bear, that would make you pucker  :shocked:


A 96-pound male Wenaha pack wolf was collared Monday in northwestern Wallowa County.

The wolf, now known as OR-12, is the only collared member of the pack.

OR-12 was trapped by an Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife biologist and fitted with a global positioning collar.

The collar will send data regarding his location to a computer every few hours so his movements can be tracked.

Michelle Dennehy, spokeswoman for the agency, said the wolf was released in good condition.

It is not known whether or not OR-12 is the pack’s alpha male.

Another male Wenaha pack wolf was collared in the summer of 2010.

Two months later, he was found dead in the Umatilla National Forest by a Fish and Wildlife biologist. It was determined the wolf was shot not long before he was discovered, but the case was never solved.

The Wenaha pack lives along the border of Union and Wallowa counties and was the first pack confirmed in Oregon since wolves were extirpated from the state in the 1940s.

The pack was confirmed when wildlife biologists conducting a howling survey heard the howls of both adults and pups simultaneously. The exact number of wolves was not determined, but at least two adults and two pups were heard.

Photos captured on a Fish and Wildlife remote camera in Northeast Oregon show the Wenaha wolf pack had at least one pup this year.

The agency’s efforts to find additional pups for the Wenaha and other packs will continue so the department can get a complete year-end count of all pups born in 2011.

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